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Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start over

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Debra Moore
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1/23/2013
 

  Fearing that Plumas County’s new general plan could lead to a loss of private property rights, a group of concerned citizens wants to trash the document and begin again.

  With the Plumas County supervisors just weeks away from approving the updated general plan, the Indian Valley Citizens for Private Property Rights appeared before the Planning Commission on Jan. 17 and laid out their arguments.

  About 60 people packed the small conference room at the planning department with most standing, and some spilling into the hallway.

  Their spokeswoman, Carol Viscarra, gave a PowerPoint presentation outlining the group’s concerns and highlighting why the new general plan is Agenda 21 in disguise.

  Agenda 21 is a 300-page document adopted in 1992 at United Nations Conference on Environment and Development held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The document is designed to be a blueprint of how jurisdictions worldwide should move toward sustainable economic growth that simultaneously protects and renews environmental resources.

  Explaining that she was not a political activist, but rather an emergency room nurse and third-generation rancher, Viscarra was nervous. But “I believe it’s my civic duty” to come forward, she said.

  After several months of page-by-page review, she said it’s her conclusion that the general plan “seems to mirror almost verbatim Agenda 21.”

  There has been a growing theory that Agenda 21 is a conspiracy to take away individual property rights and move people off the land to urban centers.

  During her presentation, Viscarra presented a map that showed vast expanses of California as off-limits to the public, wide swaths that were treated as buffer zones to be heavily regulated, with only zones around San Francisco, Los Angeles and Fresno that remained unrestricted. “Eighty-six percent of the land will be set aside as wildlife corridors,” Viscarra said.

  Because 71 percent of Plumas County’s land mass is already in the public domain, Viscarra said Plumas County is an ideal locale for Agenda 21 to take root. “Be informed. Be courageous. Read about Agenda 21 and study it for yourselves,” Viscarra told those gathered. “The stealth of this organization is upon us in Plumas County.”

  She said that the local planning commission members and supervisors “emphatically deny” any relationship with Agenda 21, and she believes them. She attributes the inclusion of Agenda 21 language in the general plan to the consultants that help jurisdictions write planning documents and organizations that provide grants.

  She said the words “Agenda 21” never appear in such documents, but words such as “sustainability,” “open space,” “mixed-use housing” and “sustainable development,” which she describes as the “most egregious,” are all indicators of its influence.

  “They will never, ever call it Agenda 21,” she said.

  Viscarra said that the process began in Plumas County back in 2002 as local leaders embarked upon Vision 2020, with the aid of outside grants. There were meetings and scoping sessions and language terms such as sustained growth and development became more common.

  She said that in the county’s general plan update, the words “open space” are used 121 times, “sustainable” 77 times and “the county shall” is used 430 times. She said that the general plan also has “a lot of references to climate change” another popular theme in Agenda 21.

  Viscarra said that timber regulations, which restrict forestry practices in the county, are a good example of how Agenda 21 is already being implemented without people being aware.

  Addressing the ranchers in the room, she said, “If you’re not worried, it’s because you’re not paying attention.”

  She added, “I looked at the general plan through the prism of a rancher, but this should be a concern to all businesses.”

  Applause greeted the conclusion of her presentation.

  B.J. Pearson, a former county supervisor and developer in the eastern portion of the county, said, “This is one of the best presentations I have ever seen,” and suggested that she should make the presentation in each district.

  Sheriff Greg Hagwood agreed and described the presentation as “one of the most succinct and accurate” that he had seen.

  “I thought I would spend the bulk of my time protecting people against burglars,” Hagwood said. Instead, he said he found himself protecting people “from their own government. I encourage the Board of Supervisors to put strong language in the general plan regarding private property rights.”

  Many in the audience echoed Viscarra’s concerns about private property rights and the new general plan.

  “My understanding is that this plan doesn’t need to be approved until 2015,” Sheila Groethe said. “I ask you to trash this and write a new general plan appropriate to Plumas County.”

  As some of the comments began to degenerate and one man said implementing Agenda 21 to was tantamount to treason, County Counsel Craig Settlemire, who had attended the meeting, stepped in.

  “Everyone here is working to uphold our oaths and the Constitution,” he said.

  Senior Planner Becky Herrin, who represented the planning department at the meeting, thanked everyone for attending, but added that she wished they had been “here for the last seven years.”

  The planning department had held multiple meetings throughout the process including meetings in each community. She said that when the meeting was held in Indian Valley no members of the public attended.

  Her department is now in the process of writing responses to all of the comments that have been submitted for the environmental document associated with the general plan. She said many accuse the general plan of going too far, while others believe that it isn’t restrictive enough. When the document is complete, a hearing will be scheduled before the Board of Supervisors.

  How this latest protest impacts the process is unclear. The deadline for filing comments has passed, but during the Jan. 17 meeting, Planning Commission Chairwoman Betsy Schramel invited those present to put their concerns in writing.

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-16#1RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy Wants county to start overElise2013-01-23 09:04
For a good assessment of this straw-man argument of black helicopters from the U.N. taking over, see this article: sanluisobispo.com/.../...
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-20#2Smells like old teaGoyo2013-01-23 09:39
Sounds like these folks could use a power point presentation from a biologist and rape counselor. Not many people know about this because it's not worth knowing about. Corporations run the U.S. not the U.N. You should be more concerned about that.
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-15#3momjamie2013-01-23 11:30
This conspiracy theory is sad and is paralyzing public process all over the Country. It is the TEA Party at its worst. Reasonable people need to stand up, speak up, and reject this negative political junk. WOW, education is so important.
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-19#4RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy Wants county to start overTanya Henrich2013-01-23 16:48
The rules & regulations are there to protect all of us, for now and into the future. Imagine that an adjoining property owner decides to clear cut his 20 acres and lay concrete to make a nice big used car lot next to your lovely homestead. That OK?
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+19#5Conspiracy?resident 12013-01-23 16:54
Interesting opinion piece but lousy reporting.
Are you saying there is no United Nations Agenda 21? Was the Greenhouse Gas part of the plan was not prepared by ICLEI? What's the conspiracy? No theory here. The county planners used outside sources to implement Agenda 21 in our county.
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-10#6RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy Wants county to start overReally??2013-01-23 17:08
How deep a hole do you need to dig to completely bury your head in the sand??Would a word from an environmental scientest do instead of a biologist
www.youtube.com/.../
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-15#7yea Really, reallyGoyo2013-01-23 18:03
Michael Coffman works for the paper industry. His opinions are influenced by his wallet. Since when did sustainability became a bad thing? When a corp wants to supply it for you. Why don't you show a climatologist who isn't associated with the Koch bros?
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+3#8Think-Of-The-ChildrenSoylent Green2013-01-23 18:05
When the UC system in Calif was the envy of the World. Graduating great minds in Science Medecine & Technology, Multi award winning PHDs & Authors..

it was the EARMARKS from Ca offshore drilling that funded it!!

CA Used-to be the WORLDS #1 OIL exporter
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+8#9Think-Of-The-ChildrenSoylent Green2013-01-23 18:32
When private ownership & operation of chainsaws in Plumas County is Illegal.

Our DA can boast about how he has the cheapest & easiest beds to 'get into' at th jail
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-4#10Think-Of-The-ChildrenSoylent Green2013-01-23 18:42
Reject this political junk?

Tell us Jaimie, what is your visible evidence to the Contrary here? If the #1 source of Optimism of our BOS is to build a bigger JAIL..what is the Contrary?..outlawing chainsaws?
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-13#11Think-Of-The-ChildrenSoylent Green2013-01-23 19:11
Look at the Good Side Jaimie!

:-) they did say the jail would be Solar Powered!

heck maybe the 1st photo-op will be the BOS cooking doughnuts n' powdered eggs w/solar power in the kitchen.
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+25#12RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy Wants county to start overMaria2013-01-23 19:22
History has shown that when someone cannot attack the message, they attack the messenger. I challenge anyone to read a paragraph, a page or the entire general plan, then comment!
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-4#13Think-Of-The-ChildrenSoylent Green2013-01-23 19:24
If Mamma Earths Bossums in Plumas County are so Plentiful of SUNSHINE that the BOS can imagine running a shiny new jail on it.

Why cant the BOS imagine-up a way to FUND a JUST SAY NO! Campaign on it?

WHY?
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-4#14Think-Of-The-ChildrenSoylent Green2013-01-23 19:47
Think-Of-The-Children & Newtons LAW

If the BOS wont reveal how many NEW Jobs, how many + Real Estate Deals, how many NON 1/3 totally Govt subsidized new residents it takes to FUND what SUNSHINE wont pay for at the shiny new jail they want..It takes
...exactlty who pays for it?
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-14#15Common sense over conspiracies.Kurt Montandon2013-01-23 19:52
Sounds like someone's been listening to too much Glen Beck, reading too much World Nutjob Daily, and emails with lots of of FW: FW: FW: FW: FW:

Seriously, Agenda 21 is just a non-binding resolution adopted by the Bush administration more than 20 years ago.
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-8#16Think-Of-The-ChildrenSoylent Green2013-01-23 19:59
Ask yourself.The COGEN in Quincy could provide FREE elect plug-ins for cars & support a FLEET of eco-tourism.

Hey Jaime, why are there more elect car chargers in SF than in PC when WE make the electricity?
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-11#17Think-Of-The-ChildrenSoylent Green2013-01-23 20:08
The great Calif blackouts were the start of agenda 21 in Nor Calif,they didnt show chip-makers with Multi-Billions of failed batches, the manufacturing machines that made s[censored] when the elect failed..they showed a grandma with 70s AC technology & blamed Enron
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-6#18Think-Of-The-ChildrenSoylent Green2013-01-23 20:15
Look at the latest HEADLINE story in the news about Logging.

WHERE was the PRAISE for the COURAGE? Where was the THANK YOU for taking the RISK?

That Driver was >Giving to help the Community
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-10#19Solar Powered Planning DeptSoylent Green2013-01-23 20:41
Its been nearly 2-decades since Santa Clara Countys Planning Dept had to install solar & operate on it to an extent as a Mandate

Ours is what ZERO use of solar in any use?

WOW heres a PLAN! DEMAND PGE install FREE elect car chargers to Plumas County!
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+9#20RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overKurt Montandon2013-01-24 11:19
The great Calif blackouts were the start of agenda 21 in Nor Calif


Now that's some weapons grade crazy, right there. The manipulations of the deregulated energy market in California by energy companies is well documented.
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+30#21human beingHeather Kingdon2013-01-24 12:32
Find the common thread and go from there,well we are all humans and we live in Plumas County. I for one am a rancher and grew up in the logging community-look back 20 years-an owl did this-Endangered Species Act is a tool, as the EPA is a tool,we are being regulatded out of our live as we squabble.
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+22#22We need common senseLeanna Damron2013-01-24 13:07
Heather is exactly right. What was originally integrated as a good thing is being manipulated to accomplish ulterior motives. I have seen it time and time again...even in order to acquire grant funding. If it's endangered or hindering water quality the Feds will fork out the funds for anything.
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-6#23RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overElise2013-01-24 13:22
The General Plan is not a tool of the U.N, simply put. Agenda 21 is not a method of killing private property rights. The idea that the general plan is a tool of dominance is innuendo and and most of us have no use for that. Facts, and not reference to internet sites, is what we need.
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+23#24if only trueHeather Kingdon2013-01-24 14:09
Elise, if only it were true..day after day I have searched and seen that where this plan will lead us is to an area of No Growth and control of private property-when in the EIR draft of the General Plan that I and others reviewed there in large print is ICLEI as a source-my blood ran cold-research
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-9#25ICLEIElise2013-01-24 14:51
Ok, I see that ICLEI seems to be a trade group (icleiusa.org/.../...) for local governments (like a cattlemen's association) - and it assists with local cities/counties deal with energy/climate change and related issues. Is that so bad?
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-5#26ICLEIElise2013-01-24 14:53
So I'm reading their take on the Agenda 21 thing -
icleiusa.org/.../...
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-24#27RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overMark Mihevc2013-01-24 15:00
I read the General Plan. Awesome document. It is a plan to insure Plumas County will be healthy, clean, environmentally sound, civically sound, and prosperous.
It comes from the Plumas Planning Dept - not from the UN.
No wonder I could not find any tin foil in the stores lately...
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+30#28RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overJL2013-01-24 15:32
I believe the headline is a bit misleading. I thought that it was quite clear that IVCPPR simply wanted all Agenda 21 and ICLEI language out of the Plumas County General Plan and our private property rights protected.
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+29#29New Plan/revised planHeather Kingdon2013-01-24 16:04
JL you are Correct we (concerned citizens) just want the ICLEI/agenda language removed. We are working very hard to come up with alternative language that other counties, such as Humbolt, came up with to ensure that private property rights are respected. Paying outside NGO's for Our plan is wrong.
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+29#30Revise this Plan!Krisi Gorbet2013-01-24 20:44
We don't fear a conspiracy we simply want the current language revised to represent local Plumas County citizens. Those of us who believe in limited government want a County plan that does not give unilateral power to the State and Federal government!
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-16#31rational human beingMs. Sanity2013-01-24 21:46
popsci.com/.../...

Way to go crazy people! This will be great for tourism! I'm sure the rest of the state wants to visit a place with conspiracy theorists run amok.
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+16#32RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overReally??2013-01-25 01:51
Oh Ms Sanity..this conversation has degenerated into comments that don't even merit a response. Now you are providing links to a fictional novel to punctate your point. And you have the audacity to label others as "crazy people"....Best check to be sure you aren't sitting in front of a mirror.
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+19#33itchy brotherDan2013-01-25 10:13
When this plan went from 40 pages to 600,who were the BOS at that time. Nothing gets done for free,follow the money.
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-6#34RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overMark Mihevc2013-01-25 16:15
Krisi Gorbet, I have a copy of the Plan. Can you tell me what page(s) in the Plan gives 'unilateral power to the State and Federal government'? If you could give the Element and Goal numbers too- that would be great. Thanks.
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+7#35RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overUN Representative2013-01-27 08:35
People of Plumas County - please relax. We are doing this for the greater good. We will all live in one big happy utopia. The current BOS is doing a great job of implementing our plan.
Please do not seek to recall all five of them when the plan goes through.
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-12#36t2slavik@gotsky.comTom Slavik2013-01-28 22:58
Useful quacks like Glenn Beck and Field Searcy can make a lot of money feeding the paranoid, Fox News-watching masses their latest conspiracy theories. There's a lot of money to be made in so-called Free Trade, and not so much to be made in promoting sustainable living.
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-10#37RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overjamie2013-01-29 09:17
Where were these agenders for the past 7 years? They have been busy listening to Glen Beck and other "knowers". They are no different than the birthers or the folks that think that 911 was an inside job. A little common sense and education would lhelp.
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-13#38RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overjamie2013-01-29 09:27
Of course if I proposed a hog farm, sewage pond, or a smoke stack next to their property, they would want the government to intervene. These right wing extremists are the most self centered people on the planet. Hopefully, common sense and reason will win.
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-13#39RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overjamie2013-01-29 09:32
I used to be a Republican. My 96 year old grandfather used to be a republican. If they keep listening to extremists, they will never win another election. Time to reject conspiracy theorists and move forward by using common sense, science, math, and reason. Glen Beck sucks.
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-16#40RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overjamie2013-01-29 09:35
Check this out:
hcn.org/.../...
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+7#41JamieJL2013-01-29 11:35
It does not matter where we were, it is only important where we are now. I am just thankful that we discovered the problems in the plan before it was too late. We CAN protect the environment & our private property. Thank-you for the above article. I found it very informative & it gives me hope!
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-11#42RE: JLCost Concerned2013-01-29 12:16
JL, did you see the part about costing La Plata County $750,000 and years of work? I hope you like paying taxes on that private property - you are looking to incur HUGE costs on the County and yourself.
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+14#43$580,000JL2013-01-29 12:36
We have spent $580,000+ and 6 years on a flawed plan....This is NOT a compelling reason to pass it. We simply need to remove any language that threatens private property rights and it will be done. It would cost the county far less $$$ than the 430 "The County Shall" that are in this plan!
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-13#44RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overMark Mihevc2013-01-29 15:42
Hey JL - I have a copy of the Plan. Can you give me page numbers and specific element and goal items that 'threatens private property rights'? Thanks.
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-14#45RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overjamie2013-01-29 16:16
The agenders will not provide specifics or reasoned arguments, because there are none. They will simply keep saying vague statements about the U.N. and it will resonate with simple minds. Glen Beck sucks.
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-17#46RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overjamie2013-01-29 16:28
It is time for good, reasonable people to stand up, speak up, and reject the conspiracy theories that your own sherrif seem to hold as truth (scary). I always saw Plumas County as a place where thoughtful, educated people chose to live. Not anymore. I hope you find the center some day.
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-17#47RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overjamie2013-01-29 16:39
Another strange case

wyomingnews.com/.../...
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-17#48RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overjamie2013-01-29 16:49
Paranoid delusions should not be permitted in public process. The Tea Party sucks.
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-16#49RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overjamie2013-01-29 19:44
The tea party is losing at federal and state levels and is now trying to paralyze local govt. Local govt. is truly a govt. for and by the people. Don't fear this right wing fringe group. Go to meetings and speak up when they do. Call BS when you hear it. You are smarter than they are.
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-15#50RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overjamie2013-01-29 20:48
Why not do this as a community rather than developer by developer, which leaves us citizens to pay for a crazy patchwork of water & sewer pipes and plants, streets to repair but no sidewalks or way to "get there" except by driving. This is not a plot to take over the world. It's common sense.
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-14#51RE: Group fears general plan conspiracy - Wants county to start overjamie2013-01-30 07:25
Unplanned development ends up costing tax payers exponentially more money than can be afforded long term. Since when is thinking a bad thing?
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+13#52jamie? pot calling the kettle black!paul2013-01-30 10:50
IN MY OPINION, people like Jamie are the true simple minds! "Be like me and think the way I do, or I will attack you!" Saying they should not be allowed to speak in public, sounds small minded and fascist to me? Don't be bullied by the "Jamies's" in the world!
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