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Chester Air Attack Base addresses community concerns

Samantha P. Hawthorne
Staff Writer
9/5/2012

With the onset of fire season, many Lake Almanor Basin residents have been concerned with the lack of activity out of the Chester Air Attack Base.

Many residents have asked countless times, “Why aren’t they flying?” During several community meetings, Chips Fire officials responded, “Lack of visibility has kept us grounded.”

According to Terry Grecian, the attack base manager, there are many factors involved, and the stock answer “limited visibility” is only one of them.

Aircraft used on the Chips Fire, and any subsequent fire, don’t all come from Chester.

“Just because you don’t see them flying out of Chester, does not mean they’re not coming from other bases,” said Grecian.

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A Cal Fire S2T airtanker working the Chips Fire on final approach to Chester Airport

The Rogers Field runway is not long enough to accommodate air tankers such as the 12,000-gallon capacity DC-10, Very Large Air Tanker (VLAT), the Modular Airborne Fire Fighting System (MAFFS), and the Large Air Tanker (LAT).

The ones flying out of Chester are Grumman S2-T air tankers, because of the lack of federally contracted air tankers, which are shared nationally. That doesn’t mean the larger-capacity DC-10 and MAFFS are not being used.

Aside from Chester, the main bases utilized for the Chips Fire have been McClellan Air Force Base, in Sacramento County, and Chico and Redding’s air attack bases.

Coming from such diverse locations, it’s easy to underestimate exactly how many tankers are supplying retardant to the fire.

Grecian mentioned another misconception: People often believe fire retardant alone will put out a fire. Fire retardant is intended to slow down the fire.

Grecian pointed out retardant is used to “support the firefighters on the ground, allowing them time to get on location and put in a line, in attempt to hold the fire.”

Another consideration is the weather — the effectiveness of retardant and water drops decrease as wind velocity increases. Retardant is not effective when wind speeds reach 25 miles per hour or more.

As officials have said in the past, visibility is imperative for safe aerial firefighting. Depending on the type of aircraft, most require at least three miles of visibility to safely operate.

The thick patches of smoke can reduce visibility dramatically and keep flights grounded until the skies clear.

 

Every tool has a purpose

“There are a lot of different resources (tools) required for fighting wildfires, and for each tool there is a different purpose and a different time to use it,” Grecian said.

Each of the different aircraft used for fighting wildfires is responsible for a specific job.

Two air attack planes working out of Chester have been devoted to the Chips Fire from day one: Air Tactical Group Supervisors (ATGS).

“They function like an air-traffic controller, supervising all air traffic working over the fire in fire suppression efforts.”

“ATGS controls the vertical separation and entry points of the lead planes, air tankers and helicopters into the fire traffic area,” said Grecian.

One of the many on the Chips Fire is the bright red and white Firehawk, often seen with its large water bucket suspended by a long line.

Two aircraft that probably receive the least recognition, but accomplish a great deal, are the infrared and hoist ships.

“The helicopter with infrared capabilities has made it possible for local residents to see the exact location of the fire’s edge as it has progressed for the last month. This tool has been instrumental in providing daily maps,” said Grecian.

Kern County’s Helicopter 407, at the Chester base, was responsible for rescuing two firefighters from the Chips Fire and one from the Reading Fire.

It is capable of being used as a hoist ship and for water drops.

“This helicopter was used during the Vietnam War. It was restored and has been used since 2007 by the Kern County Fire Department,” said Grecian.

All these air resources, and more, have been pressed into use on the Chips Fire. Officials plan to continue using them until fire suppression efforts succeed.

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-6#1RE: Chester Air Attack Base addresses community concernsRobert Lockwood2012-09-05 07:13
When the Chips fire started there was not "limited visibility" but the planes on station were not flying. The manner in which these fires are "fought" is absurd.
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+10#2RE: Chester Air Attack Base addresses community concernsMichael2012-09-05 07:28
Robert, That fire started deep in Chips Creek Canyon. There is absolutely no way to use an airtanker that deep in a canyon. They have to fly low for an effective drop. Get low enough in that canyon and you will never make it out. No engine access, too steep for dozers.
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+13#3Chester air attack...Micke2012-09-05 09:07
Nice explanations! Thanks! It's unfortunate that so many people have opinions about how things "should" be done without having understanding of all the facts. Many of us are thankful for the firefighters and the assisting technology.
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-4#4RE: Chester Air Attack Base addresses community concernsden dickerson2012-09-05 18:12
the facts are the fire could be put out faster & safer,,,lose the unions
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-13#5RE: Chester Air Attack Base addresses community concernsden dickerson2012-09-05 18:22
assisting technology,,,visibility not a factor.
effective drop,,,ues retardant ho ya we can't
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WAY NOT 2 too steep for dozers.dr bill said it's all about paid for stand by & over time.look it up ascending degrees 4 an d9
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+1#6RE: Chester Air Attack Base addresses community concernsRan Slaten2012-09-05 20:42
Would the Chips fire have had different results had 5 four engine tankers been used on initial attack?
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+12#7RE: Chester Air Attack Base addresses community concernsLocal2012-09-05 21:05
So much armchair quarterbacking from people who don't know much about fire suppression tactics...
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+6#8Dozer Lineskyle2012-09-06 07:58
Mr Dickerson- Look at the fire map and see where the dozer lines are. These lines are created where dozers have access due to terrain.
What "assisting technology" makes "visibility not a factor"? Are you referring to IR?
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+4#9Mr. SlatenMe2012-09-06 08:18
No, The fire was reported at 2 am, also the terrain that the fire was in is not safe to fly a large tanker like that in.
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+9#10Mr. DickersonMe2012-09-06 08:19
You my friend, are an idiot!
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-9#11RE: Chester Air Attack Base addresses community concernsrobertsteele2012-09-06 12:21
more waste and stupid people running the show! the dc10 matter of fact there were 2 flying out of the old army base here in rio linda (for got the name) and they were working the fire ! plus the last fire in that area, the lookout was smoking grass while on duty! wtf! man o man!
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+1#12robertsteeleMe2012-09-06 16:21
The next fire you can come run the show, see how easy it is!
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+1#13RE: Chester Air Attack Base addresses community concernsLocal2012-09-06 20:54
Robertsteele, the fire was detected at night when the lookouts were not on. I'd like to see you fly a DC10 up the canyon for a drop.....get some accurate info before you spew....
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+4#14Two firesOregon Osprey2012-09-06 20:58
Fire #1: Chips fire. "Managed" by USFS 75,000 acres.

Fire #2: Mill Fire. "Fought" by CAL-FIRE 1,600 acres.

Don't try to tell me that the Chips fire location was any tougher than the Mill Creek canyon
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-1#15Aircraft usageSamantha2012-09-06 23:14
For all of you saying that they should have flown.. What would be the point of flying and dumping if you cant see what you are dumping on? could be just a pile of rocks. OR better yet, it could be the hand crews on the ground! over a ton of water completely squishing the beloved firefighters!
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+5#16Aircraft usageSamantha2012-09-06 23:15
We should ALL be VERY thankful, no matter the circumstances, to the firefighters that put their life and comfort on the line for all of us! I would like to see you go out there and do it and then say how it could have been taken care of faster!
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+5#17RE: Chester Air Attack Base addresses community concernsMichael Condon2012-09-07 05:28
Oregon Osprey: Chips Fire started deep in a canyon, Mill was near the upper end of the canyon. I have fought fires in both locations and I can tell you there is a huge difference. Chips was in a much steeper and windier area. Huge difference.
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+2#18Oregon OspreyMe2012-09-07 09:51
Not to mention all the hazards left over from the Storrie fire 13 years ago.
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+6#19RE: Chester Air Attack Base addresses community concernsKurt Montandon2012-09-07 17:13
@Oregon Osprey

As someone who's spent a lot of time in the Yellow-Mosquito-Indian-French Creek canyons ... yeah, the Chips fire was in far, far worse, denser terrain, and much more heavily overgrown.
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-2#20@ Michael CondonOregon Osprey2012-09-07 22:35
Mr. Condon, you are mistaken. Mill fire started at the BOTTOM of the Mill Creek Canyon and burned up to the Lassen Trail. Average slope is over 60%, pretty darn steep! CDF fought it at the north (head) and stopped it while USFS predicted it would burn to Hole in the Ground. Those are the facts.
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+3#21RE: Chester Air Attack Base addresses community concernsE2012-09-08 05:24
Does anyone know why the containment date for the Chips Fire remained August 31st the entire time, never changed, and was actually contained right on time?
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+1#22containedMe2012-09-08 09:30
The Chips fire was contained on the 31st, remember contained dose not mean it's out. still pockets of green in there
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+3#23Oregon OspreyMe2012-09-08 09:32
did the mill fire have 8 foot tall brush and EXTREMELY hazardous snags left over from a fire 13 years ago? up canyon winds all day long? comparing the two fires is like comparing apples and oranges!
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+2#24RE: Chester Air Attack Base addresses community concernsMichael2012-09-08 11:16
Oregon Osprey: If the fire started at the bottom of the canyon then I stand corrected. The maps I saw didn't look that way. But way back when, that was part of my initial attack area and I know how rugged that country is. Still not Chips Creek, but tough.
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-4#25Containment DateThomas2012-09-08 14:16
Once again it appears that when govt. agencies are involved Butt Lake is the reservoir to be destroyed. Didn't PG&E and FERC destroy the greatest trout fishery in CA 13 years ago? Firefighters were great!
Strategy was quite flawed.
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0#26MsNoah Kyle2012-09-14 18:00
good
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