I signed the petition, but now plan to vote NO
In November, we will be faced with a simple decision of whether to vote YES or NO on ballot Measure B — also known as the Medicinal and Adult Use of Cannabis Ordinance (MAUCO). If passed, Measure B will allow commercial cannabis activity in Plumas County.
Considerations behind this vote are not so simple, many issues are involved, and many impacts to the county should be recognized. With or without commercial growing, state law now allows for personal use of marijuana, and residents are allowed to grow up to six plants per residence.
I signed the petition to get the MAUCO initiative on the November ballot without knowing much about it, but in the interest of the democratic process and to learn more. Now, in retrospect, and after learning a lot more about the proposed initiative, I regret signing the petition and helping put it on the ballot. I now plan to vote NO on it.
I am fully supportive of adult use of marijuana and the ability for adult residents to grow up to six plants. And I appreciate and support the wide use and many medical benefits of marijuana, especially after my wife’s recent painful accident. However, the commercial growing of cannabis in the county is another matter.
My concerns are due the many potential problems commercial cannabis activity presents for the county and our citizens. Difficulty of collecting fees and taxes, enforcement of regulations, a quagmire of potential administrative appeals and issues, land use problems, use of chemicals, bypassing environmental regulations, crime, water demand, etc., are among these concerns. Other counties and states are struggling with the many unanticipated problems associated with commercial cannabis activity.
I also voted for Proposition 64, which legalized recreational marijuana use in California. I did so because I believed that previous laws were draconian and resulted in the incarceration of many people for minor offenses. I also have friends who are users and some growers, which seems fine to me.
Also, Plumas County does need sources of revenue and employment. However, commercial cannabis activity and all of its potential problems do not appear to be a good solution. Prohibition of substances is also not a good solution, nor has it been effective in the past, but the current allowed uses of recreational and medical marijuana, as well as allowing adults to grow up to 6 plants of their own, is hardly a “prohibition.”
Finally, in the future, the Board of Supervisors may develop some reasonable ordinance or ideally, it could be developed now. The BOS, working with county agencies and a citizens’ group, could develop a reasonable and balanced ordinance for the management of cannabis.
However, the current MAUCO ordinance (Measure B), written by commercial growers, does not appear reasonable. It allows for a great deal of commercial growing, has many loopholes, will likely create an under-funded administrative nightmare for the county, and will open a “floodgate” for commercial growers. Despite the good intentions of some small local growers, big money corrupts, and it always has. Commercial cannabis growing will likely quickly get out of hand.
Considering all of these issues and risks and to protect the quality of life we currently have in Plumas County, I think it wise to vote NO on the November commercial cannabis ballot Measure B!
Seems laughable that a pge engineer would be concerned with the environmental impact of cannabis cultivation. A company that has literally decimated stream habitats through out the state and is responsible for billions of dollars in fire damage in recent years.
“Literally decimated stream habitats.”
Kinda like what the dope growers have been doing for years eh?
All the more reason to have a regulated industry
No such thing as a regulated industry at least here in California. The illegal growers are out numbering the legal growers at better than nine to one.
That was a real knee slapper, quick, tell us another joke!!
Bob, do you think the people who lost loved ones and their homes in the Napa fires think it’s funny? What about the folks who were blown to smithereens by faulty pge gas lines in San Bruno? Do you think they’re laughing?
“Bob, do you think the people who lost loved ones and their homes in the Napa fires think it’s funny? What about the folks who were blown to smithereens by faulty pge gas lines in San Bruno? Do you think they’re laughing?”
Holy cow… What has that to do with this discussion? Me, please try really hard to stay on topic like the rest of the adults here.
Oops, Gordon actually worked for the usfs, even worse. How many thousands of gallons of herbicide did the usfs spray in the plumas forest this year alone? Hell, I remember when they used old pcb laiden oil on dusty roads, but yeah cannabis…
*laden
That was then, this is now. Obviously Gordon must have been the person set all NF. policy or sprayed PCB. on the roadways. Yeah, right. ^^^Rolls eyes^^^
Me, you’re really starting to sound like a total fool.
Bob, I’d reserve that term for those that are scared of a legal plant.
Oh, THAT should turn around your failure for sure. Are facts just pesky things muddying up your narrative?
I too will be voting NO on Measure B. This was written to be self serving to the authors and will bring almost no tax revenue to Plumas County. It proposes a 2% tax on net profits, What a joke! The author of the article is correct this will open a floodgate and one only has to look at what happened to Humboldt County as to what we can expect. Don’t be fooled vote NO on Measure B.
Nothing like methposting your hatred of cannabis at midnight to own the liberals, so much winning.
Yep Me, that’s a devastating rebuttal. I think we can all go home now.
PE, GE. civil engineer.
It’s obvious you lack full understanding of what you voted for in Prop 64 and what you signed locally, or the awareness that commercial cultivation has harmoniously been in Plumas for DECADES until this 2018 season.
You can retract your statement that the authors of MAUCO are growers, we most definitely are not. My character continues to be questioned by gossip and lies spewed from the Anti group. Until you, Mr.K., have a special needs child that requires cannabis for their comorbid issues, I’d suggest rethinking your approach of ASSuming you now understand everything in full light. You are ill informed and easily swayed by the wind, I just yawned thinking about your hollow attempt at swaying others to your waining opinions on the issues
“Great deal of commercial growing” show me ANY county with less licenses issues, please! Because Measure B is more conservative than what the CWG presented, in which you tout as the answer to regulations.
And what’s so “difficult about collecting the fees”? Please expand. BC the County knows exactly how to do it, and what it will cost to hire those five employees, in which, the permit fees cover all the start up costs associated.
And explain the distaste for a 2% local tax? Which equals 17% tax on these companies, and the BOS has the ability to raise it, four times! Are you even aware of the taxing structure and the states? You seem to cherry pick and not explain details. Have you changed your tune, are now back to Yes, Mr.Fairweather?
I’m not. Regardless, we need commercial cultivation like a hole in the head. I know full well what I voted for with prop 64. It gave our the county the right to self determine it’s course on commercial cultivation and you’ll get your chance in November. What will it cost for five employees? An easy half million a year with benefits package. 2% = 17%?? Please expand on that.
Stuck hard on no here and proud of it. So sorry Buttercup, cry yourself a river.
Page two of prop 64 states loud and clear you voted for commercial.
Bull poop. Tiffany is right, we voted for a chance for our county to self determine. Opt in or opt out. Where the heck have you been?
Nothing like a bunch of greedy dope growers telling us whats best for ourselves.
More like buffalo chips! This county voted majority for prop 64! Which is, page two: (b) The purpose and intent of this division is to establish a comprehensive system to control and regulate the cultivation, distribution, transport, storage, manufacturing, processing, and sale of both of the following:
(1) Medicinal cannabis and medicinal cannabis products for patients with valid physician’s recommendations.
(2) Adult-use cannabis and adult-use cannabis products for adults 21 years of age and over.
Which is exactly what Measure B does, regulates it locally.
“Page two of prop 64 states loud and clear you voted for commercial.”
Really? the way you twist the truth Chelsea is really something. If that is correct, why are we going to be voting (again??) on this in a couple months?
Chelsea, I’m going to consider you reason number one on why I’ll be voting NO next November. I can no longer stomach the half truths and lies and clearly see a pattern developing.
Zach, making things law takes time, that’s why you’ll be voting in Nov, things don’t just appear on the ballot, there’s processes, this journey actually began in Dec 2017, would you of rather the county holds special elections for each item?… I find it a bit sad you base your voting on your pathos of me, that’s not how people are supposed to comprehend the importance of what they’re voting on.
And I’m not sure how to help you comprehend Prop 64 being the catalyst for commercial cannabis in Plumas, sounds like you can’t even fathom more voting days in a year, I suggest you begin exploring that first…
Again Chelsea..
I’m going to consider you reason number one on why I’ll be voting NO next November. I can no longer stomach the half truths and lies and see a rather obvious and distressing pattern developing.
It’s clearly a no vote for me, thanks again Chelsea for setting all this straight. I’m sure many others will see the light and follow. It will be great to see you liars fail in November. Cheers, Zach
Don’t worry Zach. She’s only miserable when she’s awake. The rest of the time she has nightmares about social injustice.
I know this is over sweet Tiff’s head- but for everyone else reading this- there’s TWO forms of revenue associated with Measure B. One is the non refundable permit fees, which covers ALL associated employees and permitting processes, the other is the tax on sales which will generate MILLIONS locally for things like EMT, law enforcement, roads, education, mental health.
Ready now Mrs. Fairweather to change your tune?
Millions? Sounds like this cultivation thing is going to be far larger than any of us really want. I’m voting no and I’m certainly not changing my tune.
Again Chelsea has no concept of business and continues to add a 2% NET Profit tax with a tax on gross sales. And this coming from someone who wrote part of Measure B ! !
Yet another reason to vote Yes on b, thank you for the reminder.
Here’s the expansion Tiffany- The state takes 15%, in order to do things in counties, example is enforcement money granted to these counties that regulate. The 2% is the start for Plumas, the BOS has the ability, after reviewing hard data, to raise it 4x, for a grand total of 19%. If you’ve been following current events, a dozen or so municipalities that placed laws have no re-evaluated their tax structures and are amending their approaches so that their taxes are under 20%, which will make the difference between the black market thriving and the new legalities thriving.
Tough titty there Chelsea, suck it up. Even at a 90% tax we the people of Plumas county would come out the losers with commercial cultivation.
As was said above, just take a cruse around Mendocino or Humboldt Counties. And wasn’t it the Siskiyou county Sheriff calling a state of emergency over his problems with cultivation last fall? But to hear it from you people everything will be roses.
The boundless greed and the lies of growers is truly amazing.
The black market will always thrive. Legal marijuana will be paying for testing for mold, pesticides, taxes and so on. The stuff gets taxed every step of the way.
The black market grower pays nothing so expenses are lower, profits are higher and the consumer doesn’t care because they love buying the cheaper dope. Over 90% of California’s pot growers couldn’t be wrong could they? That’s the economics as I see it.
As someone else said here that once the floodgate is open it floods. I agree with that and feel commercial cultivation is a mistake this county cannot afford to make.
I wasn’t breast fed so I’m not gonna suck up your tough titty Tiff lol. If you understood how microeconomics applies to cannabis, you’d realize the choice of counties to mention in your last post was just more fuel for my examples, but I’m done talking to your tough agro hating titties, so I bid you and the two, adieu. Learn to embrace instead of looking foolish attempting to debase.
Gordon Keller posted his thoughts and feelings. Shared them to all of us and I’m glad he shared those thoughts and for that he has my strong support.
I knew it would only take a short short while till the Green Sheep appeared bleating grooow dooope. Grooow dooope.
Gordon was pretty brave me thinks as I’m certain he knew full well you people would quickly attack him.
How about this. Let’s put the shoes on other feet. How about this Chelsea… why don’t you write your own opinion piece instead of trolling around and attacking others?
Adieu as you say, see you in the funny papers.
Rick
I’m featured pretty much monthly Rick, but thanks for thinking I need more print time. Im featured in Audobon Magazine this month, it’s a good read. One day I hope you have the humility to start using that logos and ethos we all possess. Voting because someone shared “their thoughts and feelings” tells me a lot about you… I just asked Sarah McLaughlin to make a commercial with puppies and cannabis- should win you over.
Cannabis and puppies? It just might win me over. Well as long as it doesn’t require commercial cultivation in Plumas County that is.
And remember what’s been said… Whipping oneself into an embarrassing emotional lather is always considered ridiculous.
Rick
Sheriff Hagwood said it best.
You people are your own worst enemy.
Sheriff Hagwood has also seen the lies spread by the opposition group which is why he also stated this, “And to the anti-commercial groups, I would encourage you to be accurate, factual and civil in your discourse.”
No kidding on being their own worst enemies
Gordon wrote a nice opinion above. Then pro-grow people start in trying to shred Gordon for simply speaking his peace. The misrepresentation they often give is both amusing and annoying. But, I believe people living here can see things for what they are and will vote accordingly.
So amusing when the vile and violent right calls for civility, too funny this.
Keep on believing, it’s all you have. As with this option piece your arguments are all based on feelings and not fact.
*opinion
Your above comment must depend on your twisted version of fact Me. Seems you’ve completely missed reality.
Although you may respect Gordon as an individual, he did not “write a nice opinion”. He wrote a factless piece spreading disinformation. “Difficulty of collecting fees and taxes, enforcement of regulations, a quagmire of potential administrative appeals and issues, land use problems, use of chemicals, bypassing environmental regulations, crime, water demand, etc., are among these concerns. Other counties and states are struggling with the many unanticipated problems associated with commercial cannabis activity.” This is Information based on an unregulated market. There are strict standards and regulations in a regulated market. The problems counties had were from black market production. It’s comparing apples to oranges.
No such thing as a regulated industry at least here in California. The illegal growers are out numbering the legal growers at better than nine to one. How do you people make this stuff up?
Let me guess… You’d like to see their tax returns, bawhahaa!
Tax returns? Huh??
Where do you get this stuff Tax payer/voter? (AKA Me)
There is absolutely a regulated market. Does the black market still thrive at this moment? Absolutely. Most of it is because counties are refusing to participate and listen to the voters who passed prop 64. If you would like to see how the regulated market is working elsewhere, do some research. It is still small currently but it is thriving and creating tax revenue for the state daily. You can find an article here to support this claim. https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/California-Made-609M-in-Cannabis-Tax-Revenue-for-First-Quarter-of-2018-482587071.html Honestly I’m appalled at the lack of research people do these days before posting their opinions. This has just become a place where people can say what they want and people believe it
I get appalled when people post their opinions without a reality check. Time for yours Sakuragirl, you skipped the last one.
Regulated market?
State taxes on legal marijuana sales in California are coming in far short of projections — $34 million in the first quarter of 2018, about a third of the revenue that officials anticipated, according to data released Wednesday by the Legislative Analyst’s Office. Projected was $174 million and there was once talk of revenue pushing a billion annually.
Obviously the “regulated” legal market is failing badly while the black market is thriving. Why would commercial cultivation be different here than the rest of the state? Please… Don’t expect me to believe we’ll only have nice, well “regulated”legal growers. That’s almost the oldest joke in the book.
Vote no in November.
What’s your point? Do nothing and let the black market thrive, smart.
Or open the floodgates and really let it flood?
That’s really smart Me.
Jeez.. So nice to see you support the black market which is already thriving and by reading the above looks like it’s one of the biggest reasons it people here are opposing measure B. Well, that and legal commercial cultivation only screws things up worse by giving the black market growers cover. Can you tell black market weed from legal? Didn’t think so nobody can. But at least you are consistent in missing reality
Anyone can take the time to read what regulations ensue for those who would like a legal business. I, for one, am very tired of hearing the anti cannabis group continue to spew disinformation about pesticide use, contaminated water, etc because absolutely none of that is allowed in a regulated market. For a complete list of everything required for someone to be a licensed business in the state, please see the actual government document. http://bcc.ca.gov/law_regs/bcc_notice_emerg.pdf
Get real. There is no such thing as a regulated market in California. Per the State of California over 90% of our cultivation is illegal and completely unregulated. I think everybody knows that now.
Unless you’re trying to spawn the idea we’ll only have good growers and the bad black market types will stay away because we’re somehow regulated??
Personally I don’t understand why you folks struggle with reality like you do. The lying part on the other hand is really obvious. It’s your greed showing.
Deb
The fact that you think there is not a regulated market in California shows me that you have done not a single bit of research on this topic.
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/California-Made-609M-in-Cannabis-Tax-Revenue-for-First-Quarter-of-2018-482587071.html And……http://bcc.ca.gov/
Research is generally free and accessible to anyone who feels they would like factual information.
Spew nothing.
Only a tiny percentage of growers are obeying those regulations and you know it. That’s the little reality you’re so conveniently ignoring.
Shame on you for spreading more lies!!
Also, just to educate people who do not understand, commercial cannabis doesn’t always have to do with just the cultivation of cannabis. Commercial cannabis also means that a small business owner in Plumas County could make topical pain creams, tinctures, edibles, etc. Most importantly it means that people in pain or people with a medical need could obtain safe products legally and that the county could collect taxes off of them. This is a much bigger picture than whether you agree if someone could grow 6 plants or 30 plants. There is a medical need in our community for said products and nationwide more and more research is coming out daily about the benefits of cannabis products including the ability to decrease opiate use. Be informed.
And if you MUST have weed for medical or recreational reasons it’s a short trip into a county that is foolish enough to allow it. I for one happen to like Plumas County and don’t want to see it destroyed. Perhaps we can all chip in for gas money for the few instead of opening the weed floodgates here in Plumas County.
So your idea when someone needs medicine is to make them drive to sacramento which is a 6 hour round trip drive, you’ll sport the gas, and drive them there? What if the people are too sick to get in a car? What if it’s a child that needs medicine immediately for an epileptic seizure? What if the person is struggling to fight cancer and needs daily doses of cannabis oil to fight it? You’re answer is extremely uneducated and irresponsible. Along with the fact that people that truly need medicinal benefits can’t afford expensive delivery fees and travel. There are local vets that would not be able to meet your idea of traveling far to get medicine.
Sakuragirl
You’ve obviously reached the intersection of arrogance and ignorance.
No on measure B
Fantastic idea there but probably not necessary. The Truckee dispensary will FedEx their dope right to their door for free with a measly $100 purchase. A simple text message gets the ball rolling.
Lets keep Plumas Plumas. The growers and their big city investors can go somewhere else and leave us alone.
“keep plumas, plumas”
Did you know plumas has a violent crime rate that is nearly double the state’s average, and an unemployment rate to match?
We’re not talking violent crime here Me. Or Sheriff Bannon’s catch and release program for Heroin dealers either. Please try to keep up John.
Bev, I’m sorry you fail to see the parallels. When one says keep plumas, plumas, with out actually understanding the sordid conditions of the county, its like saying keep losers loosing. It’s legal, let people open their businesses. Lord knows there are plenty of empty store fronts through out the county. What in heck do we have to lose?
*losing
“What in heck do we have to lose?”
Everything we moved here for. There are none so blind as those who won’t see. Also, think you’ve got that losers losing position all buttoned up. Strong work.
Drive out by Lane Labbe’s house in a few months and see how you like it, he will have 2 large green houses FULL of pot!
Lane’s greenhouses look and smell better than the mill, or any of the dozen illegal junk yards in the county.
Everybody driving Quincy Jct./Chandler Road complains about that smell and think Lane is an arrogant Alpha Henry to boot. He’s my near neighbor. Your hero perhaps?
Were we talking about junk yards? Me, as others have complained you sure wander off topic!!
“Drive out by Lane Labbe’s house in a few months and see how you like it, he will have 2 large green houses FULL of pot!”
I thought we had a county wide moratorium on pot grows with hefty fines…
Hefty fines? I don’t think so.
But Sheriff Hagwood promises to bring along his men in black to insure compliance.
Let them invest their time, money and energy growing a big crop. Sheriff Greg will kindly help them decide which six plants they want to keep. Sounds fair enough to me.
Bob, I’d reserve that term for those that are scared of a legal plant.
Ha ha, Me has visions of a trap door under his bed with Trump monsters grabbing his leg.
Nobody is afraid of the plant silly, folks fear what Commercial cultivation brings with it. Wouldn’t six plants be enough for you?
Terese, it’s none of your business what my doctor and I plan for treatment. Prop 215 allowed for six mature and six imature plants and also allowed collective growing. This insured that patients that were physically unable to cultivate due to their location or illness could still have a means of accessing their medicine. A six plant limit leaves no room for error, disease, breeding or successive cropping.
To think that a two law abiding citizens on a fixed income will be targets of abatement, fines and property liens for growing their twelve doctor recommended plants is unacceptable. I’m fine with a reasonable ordinance, this is anything but imo.
Twelve plants, huh? I asked a neighbor who’s been growing medically for himself for years if six plants is a reasonable amount for a patient’s needs. He laughed and said that’s an argument people make who want to grow, use and sell their surplus. He gets along just fine growing two plants per season for himself. I think you may be overstating things to win an argument—much like Measure B backers do with the same old talking points with no real arguments.
Counting all the above comments both for and against commercial growing it’s obvious those pro-cultivation folks are so lobotomized and deep in their Kool-aid they have no idea what is headed their way in November. It wasn’t working with our BOS and it’s not going to work with the voters. If you thought the head explosions were massive after Hillary was rolled over by the Deplorable Train you haven’t seen ANYTHING yet
Lol, Who do you think Mueller will indict next?
“A six plant limit leaves no room for error, disease, breeding or successive cropping.”
Farming has always had it’s risks, that’s just the way it goes. Would you prefer your dope served on a silver platter?
BTW. I believe collective growing is currently a no-go in Plumas County and six plants is the maximum per parcel. That works just fine for the rest of us.
Platters are good.
I’ve been growing my two medical plants here in East Quincy for years. I have absolutely no problem harvesting 5 pounds per plant and have grown quite a few that went well over ten pounds. I smoke what I smoke and the rest goes into the compost pile.
Please, don’t come whining to me that 6 plants isn’t enough.
Awesome! What’s your secret? You must have really good genetics, seeds? Clone? Hybrids? Sativa? Indica? Care to share with everyone struggling to grow a few ounces per plant?
10 pounds!!!!!!!!!!!
No big secret, this really isn’t rocket science. If you’re only harvesting a couple ounces you’ve got some serious homework to do. Much can be learned online. (This is not the place to discuss growing tips.) Pay attention and you’ll have better luck next year. Heck… I’m still learning!
The short and sweet? I prefer feminized Indica-dominant hybred seeds known to have an expected harvest date by the end of September. Seeds are purchased online and I only grow organically. I’m six foot tall and right now, I can no longer reach the tops of my plants which is about normal for this time of year.
is six enough? i would like to invite the real growers in this county to post their records… along with that, the potency and taste of a “ten pounder”. is six enough? if i’m reducing a pound of A buds for topical/ smokable/rectal administrational/terpinenes/tinctures/ect..uses.. is six enough? and why not seven? are we such a religious country that i cant have seven?
Religion? No, it’s not that at all.
Prop. 64 and the California voters think six is plenty.
Search the internet and you can find images of plants producing over 30 pounds. What would it take to make you happy?
Eight footers already! You must start really early indoors? Also, those sixteen foot plus tall plants must really bother your neighbors come September, huh?… I think I’ll will stick to small inconspicuous plants, but thanks for your advice\input, grower Greg.
Oh no no. These won’t reach 16 foot. Indica dominate remember? And no, I don’t start early indoors, simply start seeds in 1/2 gal. blow pots 1st-2nd week of April and transplant once. (secret is the soil and organic techniques) Already have white hairs showing so pre-flowering has started. This years plants will be done in about ten weeks and (guessing) end up 10 maybe 11 feet high max. Neighbors cool, they also grow a couple plants and go figure, we’re all 100% against commercial cultivation in Plumas County.
We grow what we need and call it good. No need for the greed and ugly stuff commercial growing brings. Isn’t that the way it should be?
Green giant Greg, Tell me, Whats the point in weighing all the cannabis you don’t sell ? You don’t fool me, you’re just another a greedy back yard grower that doesn’t want the competition of a legal and regulated market, sad.
Me, how dare you. I have not sold a bag in well over twenty years. I grow for myself and the stuff makes great Christmas presents to my medical user friends. But what’s left over goes to the compost heap. Out with the old, in with the new. Obviously you value pot way more than I do and seemingly have some issues that need to resolved.
I believe our discussion is over. Have a nice day.
“I have absolutely no problem harvesting 5 pounds per plant and have grown quite a few that went well over ten pounds”
“I have not sold a bag in well over twenty years”
Sure Green giant Greg… Vote yes on measure b and put greedy black market growers like Green giant Greg out of business for good.
Strong work Me. I’m certain you just swung a few more voters away from your side.
Good luck with your runt plants. Beverly does double palm plant.
Who’s side are you on again, Bev?
Vote Yes on measure B to keep greedy black market comercial growers like green giant Greg away from our schools and neighborhoods.
Apparently another of Me’s spittle-flicked rage tantrums this time against Greg.
Darn. I think Greg was trying to help him. Oh well.
Yo Me!
Greg is entitled to grow six plants by law. Where have you been? Do you want your cake and eat it too? Get real Me, you’ve just earned another no vote from this girl. Why would anybody vote for people who behave as rudely as you??
Krystal, that’s alright, I doubt greedy black market Greg and his neighbors want to pay for fees or taxes on their cash crop anyway.
Black market Greg?
Of course you’ll post your proof of that claim pronto?
Or do you simply make this crap up as you go along??
Hysterical. This proves Sheriff Hagwood called it right when he said those people are their own worst enemy.
Mister Me.
If what you have said deserves an intelligent response you will get one. If what you have said is mere troll douche baggery you will get that response as well. It’s just the way it goes.
Wise up.
Bravo Bravo!
Let me get this straight.
Me, opposes legal back yard cultivation of a couple of plants so his big grower friends can corner the market?
Say it ain’t so. I just knew something about him smelled fishy.
Let me get this straight…
Adah opposes a legal, taxed, and regulated market so his big cartel friends can continue to corner the market?
Say it ain’t so… I knew something smelled fishy.
Nice try Me but you are wrong again.
For those who might holding their breath waiting for a coherent rebuttal from Me I don’t think it’s going to happen. Why Me would oppose those folks growing a couple of legal plants in their back yard only to support large scale commercial grows remains totally beyond me.
Adah, it’s simple. I support a regulated and taxed market where cultivators and distributors are accountable for their businesses. You support an unregulated black market where the green back Gregs of the county and cartels thrive.
Vote Yes on B to keep unregulated black market growers like green back Greg away from are schools, neighborhoods and forests.
*our
Hogwash Me. Another no vote here. Not nice to lie thru your teeth. It goes to hell with the commercial growers. The backyard people aren’t the problem and you know it.
Shasta, I assume some are good people.
Yawn. Same ol’ poop just a different day. Truthfulness just isn’t your thing is it John Baron? We get it.. Dodge, deflect and lie. Doesn’t seem you are getting much mileage on that plan anymore. Imagine that.
John Baron has lots of practice…diligently endeavoring to be all the moron he can be.
Rather unbelievable really. I don’t understand his specific kind of crazy but I do admire his total commitment to it.
Holding your breath expecting a coherent reply from John Baron aka Tax payer/voter aka Me is a MIGHTY tall order.
Adah, you’re dealing with industrial scale ignorance with that guy and there is probably no cure.
Bev
Bet those MAUCO people would like to thump him one for driving away what few yes voters there were. Don’t you think?
Carolyn, who taught you it was okay to hit people? Unlike the violent right when regular people have a disagreement we talk about it.
As I stated earlier, go ahead and vote no, I doubt greedy green back Greg wants to pay fees or taxes anyway.
Why do you still support black market cartel marijuana growers and Sheriff Bannon’s Catch and release program for Heroin dealers John Baron?
Thump you idiot!!
Why should Greg pay any fees or taxes? His backyard grow is exempt. Same for your runty (you say) plants.
Are you truly that slow???
Vote NO on B
People.
Stop feeding the Troll.
Anyway to shut down her dispensary on 666 Main St.? Everyone knows that they’re selling from that storefront which I believe is a violation.
This thread is one of the saddest things I have seen so far.
If you are for or against Measure B, it is your right to choose.
The name calling and disrespect doesn’t win anyone over on either side.
I heard about this post and came to make a comment to support Measure B, but the people making comments here are not having a discussion. They are attacking each other and no one is winning.
I know things can get heated and we have all lost our cool from time to time. Maybe everyone should take a breath and come back to the table calm to talk out the differences. Agree to disagree even, but get your opinion out in a way that doesn’t come off as cheap entertainment to onlookers.
Lady bird sucks